Othinus, Demi-Fiend, Archie Sonic, God Spawn and Reinhard vs Marvel and DC

Othinus: 

Demi-Fiend: 

Archie Sonic: 

God Spawn: 

Reinhard: 

Battler Ushiromiya: 

VS


Marvel: 

and

DC: 


No CIS/PIS, no BFR, starting with street levelers all the way to the top tiers. Everyone in the team is at their strongest. Omnipotents and toonforce characters restricted.

Fight takes place in the omniverse.

Who wins?

Both, but especially Marvel's now, are all over the place in power with their Cosmic beings so much. I'll go and say the Team conquers both verses if we take The Presence. (even that's debateable from what I hear) and The One Above All out of the equation

Sounds about right, to me. Though LT should give them a bit of trouble.

I know I might sound like a killjoy here, but i'm going to edit your op and add some restrictions. Namely, omnipotent and toonforce characters. Aside from that, it's okay. Your lucky you made this before any rules against verse vs verse/character vs verse were made.

Chef_Banchou wrote:Sounds about right, to me. Though LT should give them a bit of trouble.

Honestly, I dont see it being any more different then the one-sided beating those Beyonders gave to LT. Othinus and Demi-Fiend are about as Nigh-Omnipotent as they get as both ended nearly all of existance in their respective verses, Reinhard, another potential other Nigh-Omnipotent from what I hear, and two other Multiversal+ characters.

DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Uh...you do realize that Othinus, Demi-Fiend and possibly even Reinhard, are all nigh omni as well, right? Even Sonic and God Spawn are high end multiversal, to megaversal themselves. Including their ass load of hax, I'd say they clear, mid dif. Reinhard can summon an army of thousand, or even millions of immortal minions, with all of his hax, and each capable of universe level+ DC on their own. Every one of the team is either resisyant, if not outright immune to reality warping, and most of them are faster than omniresence, or have infinit speed, as well as more.

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Only Pre Retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man stand a chance IIRC.

Kobra wrote:

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Only Pre Retcon Beyonder and Molecule Man stand a chance IIRC.

Like i stated before.....Pre Retcon Beyonder is omnipotent via Beyond Realm.

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Uh...you do realize that Othinus, Demi-Fiend and possibly even Reinhard, are all nigh omni as well, right? Even Sonic and God Spawn are high end multiversal, to megaversal themselves. Including their ass load of hax, I'd say they clear, mid dif. Reinhard can summon an army of thousand, or even millions of immortal minions, with all of his hax, and each capable of universe level+ DC on their own. Every one of the team is either resisyant, if not outright immune to reality warping, and most of them are faster than omniresence, or have infinit speed, as well as more.

.......it wont touch them like you think it will
God Spawn did a UNIVERSAL feat
Super Sonic either had collisions with other beings to do so.

Megaverse by what other say is a Marvel/Dc thing so unless you can show me another LT being them this match in as not all nigh-omnipotent beings at the same.....
Example:
Superman prime 1,000,000 he is considered "Nigh-omnipotent" because he went though the source wall and gained 10,000 years in his skills and mastered them and somewhat gain nigh-omniscience. But we never saw anything with nigh-omnipresence as he couldn't save a universe from being destroyed

Another example.....
Alien X and his race they have shown from
Reality warping on a cosmic scale
Super human strength
Size manipulation
Time manipulation
Space manipulation
Flight
Duplication
And this is all considered to make alien x and his race seem omnipotent but in actuality's they are nigh due to having MANY limitations.

Now here is a good example the living tribunal is nigh-omnipotent/omniscience and but fully omnipresent that's a high status being he shown to have omniverse authority.

Not all nigh-omnipotent beings are the same nor are the abilities.

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:DC/Marvel wins.....
The Living Tribunal-Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse Level
Beyonders- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
PR Molecule Man- Nigh-Omnipotent and Megaverse level
Thought Robot - Adapts to any threat but is around galaxy level
Lucifer+Michael- Nigh-Omnipotent and Multiverse to Megaverse levels.
Sise-Neg - Big Bang level=Multiverse level
Mad Jim Jaspers- HIGHLY Omniversal
Mr.Mxy-Multiverse level
The Brothers Ying-Yang- Nigh-Omnipotent and are Multiverse-Megaverse

To many nigh-omnipotent beings that can cause serious soloing.

Uh...you do realize that Othinus, Demi-Fiend and possibly even Reinhard, are all nigh omni as well, right? Even Sonic and God Spawn are high end multiversal, to megaversal themselves. Including their ass load of hax, I'd say they clear, mid dif. Reinhard can summon an army of thousand, or even millions of immortal minions, with all of his hax, and each capable of universe level+ DC on their own. Every one of the team is either resisyant, if not outright immune to reality warping, and most of them are faster than omniresence, or have infinit speed, as well as more.

.......it wont touch them like you think it will
God Spawn did a UNIVERSAL feat
Super Sonic either had collisions with other beings to do so.

Megaverse by what other say is a Marvel/Dc thing so unless you can show me another LT being them this match in as not all nigh-omnipotent beings at the same.....
Example:
Superman prime 1,000,000 he is considered "Nigh-omnipotent" because he went though the source wall and gained 10,000 years in his skills and mastered them and somewhat gain nigh-omniscience. But we never saw anything with nigh-omnipresence as he couldn't save a universe from being destroyed

Another example.....
Alien X and his race they have shown from
Reality warping on a cosmic scale
Super human strength
Size manipulation
Time manipulation
Space manipulation
Flight
Duplication
And this is all considered to make alien x and his race seem omnipotent but in actuality's they are nigh due to having MANY limitations.

Now here is a good example the living tribunal is nigh-omnipotent/omniscience  and but fully omnipresent that's a high status being he shown to have omniverse authority.

Not all nigh-omnipotent beings are the same nor are the abilities.

True. But Othinus at 100% can destroy an infinit amount of "phases" which, in Index, are the equivalent of universes or multiverses. Also, TDE Demi-Fiend was powerful enough to match, or even beat, a being capable of literally blinking away millions of universes and multiverses. Reinhard has a ridiculous slew of hax, speed faster than omnipresence, and megaversal+ DC. Archie Sonic survived the destruction of a universe in base form, without a scratch, and destroyed a dimension by simply colliding punches with Knuckles, and matched blows with the multiversal Mammoth Mongol. God Spawn is, ironically, the weakest here, and even he is capable of recreating the universe on a whim. Please, don't downplay.

Not downplaying I am laying the facts here those sound all impressive but its all been done.....even a fake beyonder was killing off multiverses and mad Jim Jaspers reality warping was so bad LT has to kill off universes that's when the quote

"He will kill millions to save billions and to save trillions."

I wont mention the spectre only because 1 form of him is seriously OP after going into the source and almost becoming one with god himself but the source kicked him out as he is one of the many avatars of the presence.

The brothers ying-yang by marvel/dc was separated as Multiverses but then when they met was a entire Megaverse until Retcon they was easily busting galaxies.

You wanna talk about Opes and hax? Try michael+Lucifer able to create MULTIVERSES on a whim they created their own multiverse and became the presence of that multiverses I also like to tell he erased the infinite limbo of the presence rejected works and he did it because he wanted to clean it and he tanked the BIG BANG that caused all of creation and didn't scratch him and if Michael dies all of existence will die as he is the "1st matter".

The great evil beast isnt mentioned because its status is seriously and utterly debatable.

Pre-Retcon Molecule Man with a simple "Finger" wave was cleaning a Multiverse wide-destruction caused by PR Beyonder and yes he even created a bubble which can survive the blast of existence being erased.....then beyonder came in laughed and popped it and MM had gained ALOT of energies from the literal multiverse to do this.

Thought Robot highest feats was galaxy level but he tanked a 52 universe+10 million suns at point blank range.

The beyonders beat LT.......that's a feat hardly any being in fiction can do other than PR Beyonder/Molecule man where LT couldn't do shit until they was Retcon.

Mr.mxy has shown to be multiverse and somewhat multiverse+ in many situations he seriously is a toon force like being but hardly shows it so he shouldn't be taken like a joke he outs bugs bunny out of order.

Demi-Friend can beat those beings but outside its the matter if he can handle beings who laugh at that.

Not even.....
Kami tenchi
Featherine
Lord of nightmare
Demonbane
Wouldn't go past LT.....this was debated on multiple forums.

Suggsverse wins =P

Suggsverse gets rekt by squirrel girl.

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:Not downplaying I am laying the facts here those sound all impressive but its all been done.....even a fake beyonder was killing off multiverses and mad Jim Jaspers reality warping was so bad LT has to kill off universes that's when the quote

"He will kill millions to save billions and to save trillions."

I wont mention the spectre only because 1 form of him is seriously OP after going into the source and almost becoming one with god himself but the source kicked him out as he is one of the many avatars of the presence.

The brothers ying-yang by marvel/dc was separated as Multiverses but then when they met was a entire Megaverse until Retcon they was easily busting galaxies.

You wanna talk about Opes and hax? Try michael+Lucifer able to create MULTIVERSES on a whim they created their own multiverse and became the presence of that multiverses I also like to tell he erased the infinite limbo of the presence rejected works and he did it because he wanted to clean it and he tanked the BIG BANG that caused all of creation and didn't scratch him and if Michael dies all of existence will die as he is the "1st matter".

The great evil beast isnt mentioned because its status is seriously and utterly debatable.

Pre-Retcon Molecule Man with a simple "Finger" way was cleaning a Multiverse wide-destruction caused by PR Beyonder and yes he even created a bubble which can survive the blast of existence being erased.....then beyonder came in laughed and popped it and MM had gained ALOT of energies from the literal multiverse to do this.

Thought Robot highest feats was galaxy level but he tanked a 52 universe+10 million suns at point blank range.

The beyonders beat LT.......that's a feat hardly any being in fiction can do other than PR Beyonder/Molecule man where LT couldn't do shit until they was Retcon.

Mr.mxy has shown to be multiverse and somewhat multiverse+ in many situations he seriously is a toon force like being but hardly shows it so he shouldn't be taken like a joke he outs bugs bunny out of order.

Demi-Friend can beat those beings but outside its the matter if he can handle beings who laugh at that.

Not even.....
Kami tenchi
Featherine
Lord of nightmare
Demonbane
Wouldn't go past LT.....this was debated on multiple forums.

Sounds like major downplaying to me. First off, busting galaxies easily and creating universes is cool and all, but thats about as impressive as Watching paint dry, to these guys. Again, Othinus casually destroying an infinit amount of phases, Demi-Fiend tagging omnipresence and matching a nigh omni, and Reinhard destroying a throne that has megaversal+ durability, and is conceptual, as well as having millions of minions with perfect immortality, multiversal+ DC, and all of his hax >>>>>>>>>> all the feats you named. Hell, most of those guys you named who are only multiversal+ would die by simply looking at Reinhard, due to his hax; Longinus Testament, which erases the mind, burns the soul, and brings the onlooker into his legion. The only way to avoid this, is by being on his level; AKA, megaversal+.

Also, are you serious? Featherine or Demonbane would rape LT alone. Also, let me guess; by multiple forums, you mean MVC, OBD, and VS Battles wiki, right?

See your downplaying.......
Reinhard doesn't get passed LT
Reinhard doesn't get passed PR Molecule man
Reinhard doesn't get passes the Beyonders

MVC have few users who are good
OBD/VsBattles are shit

It's been debates on multiple different forums from
Animevice back in old days
Comicvine back and present
Comic book resources
Killermovies

The feats you states is all of what these beings can do on a massive scale......

PR Molecule Man>LT
LT by fans of all ages,race,gender, and even genres agreed LT is one of the most Oped nigh-omnipotent beings to exist......until PR Beyonder,Molcule man, heart of the universe (toaa power), and The Beyonders and the beyonders BY far fought him in ALL realities and even by Hickman "No more alternate realities only battle world exist." So the omniverse in marvel is gone and a new "Marvel" is in its way

Scans Of Beyonders Vs LT.

Spoiler:

The new beyonder being stated as a "Child Unit" which by this logic and the retcon he was ABLE to do anything as a mere child.

Spoiler:

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:See your downplaying.......
Reinhard doesn't get passed LT
Reinhard doesn't get passed PR Molecule man
Reinhard doesn't get passes the Beyonders

MVC have few users who are good
OBD/VsBattles are shit

It's been debates on multiple different forums from
Animevice back in old days
Comicvine back and present
Comic book resources
Killermovies

The feats you states is all of what these beings can do on a massive scale......

PR Molecule Man>LT
LT by fans of all ages,race,gender, and even genres agreed LT is one of the most Oped nigh-omnipotent beings to exist......until PR Beyonder,Molcule man, heart of the universe (toaa power), and The Beyonders and the beyonders BY far fought him in ALL realities and even by Hickman "No more alternate realities only battle world exist." So the omniverse in marvel is gone and a new "Marvel" is in its way

Scans Of Beyonders Vs LT.

Spoiler:

The new beyonder being stated as a "Child Unit" which by this logic and the retcon he was ABLE to do anything as a mere child.

Spoiler:

You seem to be under the impression that I think Reinhard solos...even though I never stated such a thing...however, when have any of them ever encountered the hax that Reinhard posseses? And for that matter, how would they handle, not only the high multiversal Sonic, the hax megaversal Reinhard, and the two nigh omnis Demi-Fiend and Othinus? All together, I'd say they clear.

Spoiler:

Myriad Multiverses
Myriad MEANS innumerable,countless,infinite,numberless,untold,unnumbered,immeasurable, and multitudinous.

Spoiler:

Marvel has Megaverse beings also......nothing new....

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:

Spoiler:

Myriad Multiverses
Myriad MEANS innumerable,countless,infinite,numberless,untold,unnumbered,immeasurable, and multitudinous.

Spoiler:

Ok, first; countless =/= infinit. Othinus, however, was literally stated to have destroyed an infinit amount of universes. Demi-Fiend was powerful enough to match a nigh omni, who could blink away multiverses out of boredom. Sonic could trade blows with a guy who could crush multiverses with his bare hands. God Spawn could casually recreate the universe on a whim. And Reinhard destroyed a throne with megaversal level+ durability and was conceptual, as a casualty of his fight, is faster than omnipresence, and, by the time he gets to LT, would have all of the powers of the heroes of earth, and beyond.

You didn't see the scans?.....reinhard isn't nothing special to marvel or dc.....

TDE Demi-Fiend is night-omni, via being on equal footing with a nigh-omnipotent being. No one in either verse short of an omnipotent is stomping him. Not even Beyonder

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:You didn't see the scans?.....reinhard isn't nothing special to marvel or dc.....

Bullshit. Reinhard makes anyone below his power have their soul burned, mind erased, and get added to his immortal legion, simply by staring at him, his spear, Longinus, is above the concept of missing, and is beyond the concept of speed, and erases your mind, burns your soul, and adds the poor bastard of a target to his legion, all with one hit. Oh, and his DC is megaversal, BUT so are the million+ minions he has in his legion, who are, like him, above the concept of death, and have all of his DC and durability. He would also take all of the powers from every being in the Marvel/DC verse that he kills, as well as add them to his legion. So, no; he's totally new in terms of abilities to them.

Akronawol17 wrote:TDE  Demi-Fiend is night-omni, via being on equal footing with a nigh-omnipotent being. No one in either verse short of an omnipotent is stomping him. Not even Beyonder

Not really.....just because he can face mid tiers doesn't mean he can take on any marvel/dc too tiers.

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Naruto Uzumaki wrote:You didn't see the scans?.....reinhard isn't nothing special to marvel or dc.....

Bullshit. Reinhard makes anyone below his power have their soul burned, mind erased, and get added to his immortal legion, simply by staring at him, his spear, Longinus, is above the concept of missing, and is beyond the concept of speed, and erases your mind, burns your soul, and adds the poor bastard of a target to his legion, all with one hit. Oh, and his DC is megaversal, BUT so are the million+ minions he has in his legion, who are, like him, above the concept of death, and have all of his DC and durability. He would also take all of the powers from every being in the Marvel/DC verse that he kills, as well as add them to his legion. So, no; he's totally new in terms of abilities to them.

Ima anime/comic fan nothing Reinhard can do is even remotely impressive you seen the scans....nothing listed is worth even a Post-Retcon Beyonder own attention

Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) with a finger wave will repair a entire Multiverse in seconds and that's a fraction of him just doing that.

Beyonder (Post Retcons) like the scans say alot of versions of beyonder fake or real are Megaverse levels.

The living tribunal.....Omnipresent in all realities in all actualities he can destroy and create universes just by his judgement he has shown to separate ENTIRE universes from others I mean you cant escape you cant unless you are above his power and only a few can do this LT created along with spectre Multiverse entities and they turned into "Megaverse" entities when combined.....that's what high tiers like him can do.

Sise Neg literally have all the magic in the marvel omniverse to the point be BECAME the literal BIG BANG and was pronounced "God" becoming a nigh-omnipotent being able to create Multiverses inside the omniverse making him Megaverse.

Mad Jim Jasper.....no joke he omniversal in a few realities.

Mr.Mxy no need to explain this guy who can GRAB the literal multiverse in his hands with little 4th wall.

The brothers by far are Megaverse in pre-retcon/post but in post they can bust galaxies like they are nothing.

The infinites.....these beings handled a entire universe aka Eternity like he was a "Doll"

The beyonders a extradimensional race of nigh-omnipotent beings able to create devices that make YOU nigh-omnipotent aka the cosmic cube creators these beings Intelligence are off scale so is the power they have as we seen they took down a MEGAVERSE entity on a whim.

Lucifer+Michael both are nigh-omnipotent beings but combined they are Equally are Multiverse level beings they be able to have control and manage it like "God".

Thought Robot tanking 52 (Ironic?) universes and have the abilities to adapt to any threat he can literally handle beings who are above the concept of death aka Mandraak.