John Taylor (Nightside) vs Death (Supernatural)

John Taylor (Nightside)


VS


Death (Supernatural)



No CIS/PIS, no BFR, speed equalized, they start 25 feet apart, win by K.O or death.


Fight takes place in the Cathedral, located in the Nightside.


Who wins?

plsno

Captivated- wrote:plsno

What?

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This is actually a rather even fight, imo. Is there something I'm missing?

What are John's feats?

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

First of all, like I said, John can travel dimensionally, as well as through rifts in time, so he can nearly replicate thay feat. Secondly, stopping time might stop his body, but its been shown that John's mind and powers are still active during timestop. So that wouldn't necessarily allow Death to win. Thirdly, he can just use telepathy to locate death if he's invisible, and could fend off any mind fuckery, or memory tampering, using his abilities. And finally, John does not require knowledge of his opponent to locate and take advantage of their weaknesses. It's been shown that he can locate the weakness of anyone, even if that weakness is located in another dimension. Once, when using this ability, he located the one item in existance that could kill the character he was trying to kill, despite never even seeing or knowing about said item.

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

First of all, like I said, John can travel dimensionally, as well as through rifts in time, so he can nearly replicate thay feat. Secondly, stopping time might stop his body, but its been shown that John's mind and powers are still active during timestop. So that wouldn't necessarily allow Death to win. Thirdly, he can just use telepathy to locate death if he's invisible, and could fend off any mind fuckery, or memory tampering, using his abilities. And finally, John does not require knowledge of his opponent to locate and take advantage of their weaknesses. It's been shown that he can locate the weakness of anyone, even if that weakness is located in another dimension. Once, when using this ability, he located the one item in existance that could kill the character he was trying to kill, despite never even seeing or knowing about said item.

1 I'd heavily disagree with replicating the box feat. You have to realize that the box held Lucifer; he said he taught Gabriel everything that he knows, meaning that he's a stupidly high tiered reality warping (albeit he's featless with this) + Michael. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that only stupid high tiers can get into the box (Death, God).
2 I know the time stop wouldn't win him the fight, but it'd allow him to gain position.
3 The ability to transport items is apportation which Death can do as well ->Death has a insane dimensional feat to boot. For the location of the weapon; (a) We have no idea where the scythe is, (b) We have no idea if Crowley was telling the truth -> it was a assumption. *EDIT -> Trying to kill Death with the scythe would be stupid. He is the concept of death, as long as living beings are present he will exist. It would be in directly contradicting the very meaning of having control of the concept in the fashion in which he does.
4 Death can teleport... so yeah
As a side note: Apportation of objects/characters is a norm in Supernatural. Gabriel has feats of apporting people -> Death's apportation should be higher than John's meaning Death would retrieve the scythe first.

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

First of all, like I said, John can travel dimensionally, as well as through rifts in time, so he can nearly replicate thay feat. Secondly, stopping time might stop his body, but its been shown that John's mind and powers are still active during timestop. So that wouldn't necessarily allow Death to win. Thirdly, he can just use telepathy to locate death if he's invisible, and could fend off any mind fuckery, or memory tampering, using his abilities. And finally, John does not require knowledge of his opponent to locate and take advantage of their weaknesses. It's been shown that he can locate the weakness of anyone, even if that weakness is located in another dimension. Once, when using this ability, he located the one item in existance that could kill the character he was trying to kill, despite never even seeing or knowing about said item.

1 I'd heavily disagree with replicating the box feat. You have to realize that the box held Lucifer; he said he taught Gabriel everything that he knows, meaning that he's a stupidly high tiered reality warping (albeit he's featless with this) + Michael. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that only stupid high tiers can get into the box (Death, God).
2 I know the time stop wouldn't win him the fight, but it'd allow him to gain position.
3 The ability to transport items is apportation which Death can do as well ->Death has a insane dimensional feat to boot. For the location of the weapon; (a) We have no idea where the scythe is, (b) We have no idea if Crowley was telling the truth -> it was a assumption. *EDIT -> Trying to kill Death with the scythe would be stupid. He is the concept of death, as long as living beings are present he will exist. It would be in directly contradicting the very meaning of having control of the concept in the fashion in which he does.
4 Death can teleport... so yeah
As a side note: Apportation of objects/characters is a norm in Supernatural. Gabriel has feats of apporting people -> Death's apportation should be higher than John's meaning Death would retrieve the scythe first.

1. Granted, your probably right that John couldn't slip into Lucy's cage. However, he still has spacial and dimensional travel, so there's that.

2. Again, true, but its not going to help much when these two aren't normally physical fighters in the first place.

3. It might not work, but he can sure as hell try. He can still locate whatever weaknesses ge might have, other than the scythe, as well.

4. The advantages, for the most part, go to Death, but it wo t be an easy fight. John has fought some crasy shit, before.

Yeah it probably won't be an easy fight for Death but in the long fun he would reap John. Death tends to know where everyone is at and what is going on at all times. So if John tries to play a game of hide and seek he will ultimately get caught in the long fun.

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

First of all, like I said, John can travel dimensionally, as well as through rifts in time, so he can nearly replicate thay feat. Secondly, stopping time might stop his body, but its been shown that John's mind and powers are still active during timestop. So that wouldn't necessarily allow Death to win. Thirdly, he can just use telepathy to locate death if he's invisible, and could fend off any mind fuckery, or memory tampering, using his abilities. And finally, John does not require knowledge of his opponent to locate and take advantage of their weaknesses. It's been shown that he can locate the weakness of anyone, even if that weakness is located in another dimension. Once, when using this ability, he located the one item in existance that could kill the character he was trying to kill, despite never even seeing or knowing about said item.

1 I'd heavily disagree with replicating the box feat. You have to realize that the box held Lucifer; he said he taught Gabriel everything that he knows, meaning that he's a stupidly high tiered reality warping (albeit he's featless with this) + Michael. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that only stupid high tiers can get into the box (Death, God).
2 I know the time stop wouldn't win him the fight, but it'd allow him to gain position.
3 The ability to transport items is apportation which Death can do as well ->Death has a insane dimensional feat to boot. For the location of the weapon; (a) We have no idea where the scythe is, (b) We have no idea if Crowley was telling the truth -> it was a assumption. *EDIT -> Trying to kill Death with the scythe would be stupid. He is the concept of death, as long as living beings are present he will exist. It would be in directly contradicting the very meaning of having control of the concept in the fashion in which he does.
4 Death can teleport... so yeah
As a side note: Apportation of objects/characters is a norm in Supernatural. Gabriel has feats of apporting people -> Death's apportation should be higher than John's meaning Death would retrieve the scythe first.

1. Granted, your probably right that John couldn't slip into Lucy's cage. However, he still has spacial and dimensional travel, so there's that.

2. Again, true, but its not going to help much when these two aren't normally physical fighters in the first place.

3. It might not work, but he can sure as hell try. He can still locate whatever weaknesses ge might have, other than the scythe, as well.

4. The advantages, for the most part, go to Death, but it wo t be an easy fight. John has fought some crasy shit, before.

Agreed. Mostly because I haven't seen John's feats, I'll take your word for it that he has insane feats.

As a side note, does tagging work? @Othus lock please

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:

Chef_Banchou wrote:

Captivated- wrote:What are John's feats?

Using mainly telekinesis/telepathy, John can do things like mind rape, open dimensional/spacial rifts, cause internal bleeding, teleport items into his hand, etc. He also has the ability to see/know/find the weakness of whatever or whoever he's fighting, be it a certain item or a vulnerable organ.

Eh, Death would still win.
Death went into the cage to retrieve a Sam's soul. -> The cage was created by God
He can manipulate time. -> Time stopped when he talked to Dean
He can teleport instantly.
He can also apport objects. -> When he retrieves his scythe from Dean.
He can be invisible by whim, similar to the other horsemen.
He can suppress memories; like what he did to Sam.
Stated that he created the flood in Genesis 6.
Lastly, he cannot be physically destroyed. Being that he is a member of the four horsemen, his attribute is the source of his power. John would have to kill all living beings in the universe to kill Death.
He also possesses a weapon that can kill anything (allegedly). Crowley did say that it could kill him but that would require knowledge of the weapon; Death has it.

First of all, like I said, John can travel dimensionally, as well as through rifts in time, so he can nearly replicate thay feat. Secondly, stopping time might stop his body, but its been shown that John's mind and powers are still active during timestop. So that wouldn't necessarily allow Death to win. Thirdly, he can just use telepathy to locate death if he's invisible, and could fend off any mind fuckery, or memory tampering, using his abilities. And finally, John does not require knowledge of his opponent to locate and take advantage of their weaknesses. It's been shown that he can locate the weakness of anyone, even if that weakness is located in another dimension. Once, when using this ability, he located the one item in existance that could kill the character he was trying to kill, despite never even seeing or knowing about said item.

1 I'd heavily disagree with replicating the box feat. You have to realize that the box held Lucifer; he said he taught Gabriel everything that he knows, meaning that he's a stupidly high tiered reality warping (albeit he's featless with this) + Michael. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that only stupid high tiers can get into the box (Death, God).
2 I know the time stop wouldn't win him the fight, but it'd allow him to gain position.
3 The ability to transport items is apportation which Death can do as well ->Death has a insane dimensional feat to boot. For the location of the weapon; (a) We have no idea where the scythe is, (b) We have no idea if Crowley was telling the truth -> it was a assumption. *EDIT -> Trying to kill Death with the scythe would be stupid. He is the concept of death, as long as living beings are present he will exist. It would be in directly contradicting the very meaning of having control of the concept in the fashion in which he does.
4 Death can teleport... so yeah
As a side note: Apportation of objects/characters is a norm in Supernatural. Gabriel has feats of apporting people -> Death's apportation should be higher than John's meaning Death would retrieve the scythe first.

1. Granted, your probably right that John couldn't slip into Lucy's cage. However, he still has spacial and dimensional travel, so there's that.

2. Again, true, but its not going to help much when these two aren't normally physical fighters in the first place.

3. It might not work, but he can sure as hell try. He can still locate whatever weaknesses ge might have, other than the scythe, as well.

4. The advantages, for the most part, go to Death, but it wo t be an easy fight. John has fought some crasy shit, before.

Agreed. Mostly because I haven't seen John's feats, I'll take your word for it that he has insane feats.

As a side note, does tagging work? @Othus lock please

You don't have to ask Othus to lock it. I am a mod, you know, lol.

I'll lock it. I am the mod for this forum, after all.